Timehost: If you've ever wondered about where the Web is
headed next, this is your chance to swap ideas with the man who dreamed
it all up, Tim Berners-Lee. Mr. Berners-Lee invented the World Wide
Web in 1989 while working for CERN, or the European Particle Physics
Laboratory, in Geneva, Switzerland. He saw it as a way to more
effectively
share and distribute information not just within a corporation, but
around the world. He was the guy who thought up "http://", HTML, URLs
and started the ball rolling on creating an editable browser, too.
Now his idea has sparked a communications revolution that some say
is among the greatest the world has ever known. In fact, TIME thought
so, when it named Tim Berners-Lee among the 100 most influential minds
of the 20th century earlier this year. You can read Mr. Berners-Lee's
profile from the TIME 100 by going to www.time.com/time100/scientist/profile/bernerslee.html
He now heads up the W3 consortium outside of Boston, a group made up of
various companies and organizations who are dedicated to pushing the
Web to its full potential. He's recently written a book about his
experiences
in creating the World Wide Web. The book is called "Weaving the Web" and
is being published by HarperSanFrancisco on Oct. 1, this Friday! Welcome, Mr.
Berners-Lee!
Tim Berners-Lee: Pleased to be here.
Timehost: Well, the first question on everyone's minds,
I'm sure, is: "How did the idea for the Web come to you?"
Tim Berners-Lee: There was no "Eureka!" moment, though
everybody
would like to think that there was one. Lots of independent things
led me to think of information being stored in the connections between
things. I realized that the information systems I use, even though
they were all very different, could each be represented by a website.
technodrome9901 asks: What were your goals in the
beginning
of the WWW project, and how have they changed?
Tim Berners-Lee: From the beginning, they've been making the
web into a powerful universal space of information, and in that respect,
they have not changed at all. So far, the richness of the things you
find on the web has been amazing, but the ability of a real user to
create things and organize information, for example, by making links,
is fairly limited.
www_deathmerchant_com asks: What sites do you look
at regularly?
Tim Berners-Lee: I don't let people know which particular
commercial sites I prefer, because I have to remain neutral as director
of the W3C. I use the consortium web site all the time because our
international team lives on the web.
Louisk39 asks: Did you ever in your wildest dreams
think that e-commerce
would be such a large part of the expansion of the Net?
Tim Berners-Lee: I've always felt that e-commerce is part
of the web being a universal space.
Timehost: One sign of the power of the Web is that people
use its name interchangeably with the Internet, as this next question
shows:
nebula2341 asks: Why do you think the internet caught
on so relatively quickly?
Timehost: The question refers to the Web . . .
Tim Berners-Lee: First of all, let's get clear the difference.
The internet is a collection of computers, which was put together
during the 1970's. When I proposed the Web in 1989, the internet had
been around for 15 years. You could use e-mail, you could store files
on ftp servers, and people could access them, but it was very
complicated.
The web was the step to make accessing a remote document just one
click. The internet spread really quite slowly. It started in research,
moved into universities, and many people only heard about it when
the web became available as an easy way to use it.
abnokshis asks: What work do you see the web needing
for its future operation?
Tim Berners-Lee: There is a huge amount of development to
the technology, most of which users should not see. From the point
of view of users, the biggest change I want to see is to make everyone
capable of writing web pages and making links just as easily as people
can make e-mail messages today. An example I use is a photograph album.
I would like to be able to share my digital photos with family all over
the world, and all join in together with manipulating the photos in the
album, and adding our own photos.
At the moment, the web is a bit like millions of TV channels, in that
it's not a creative space. I used to think that all we needed was a good
web page editor, like Amaya. But now I realize that apart from the tools
we need much more infrastructure to make collaboration possible. We need
digital signatures to verify who people are, and we need easy control
over group membership and access to web pages.
alienfrommars_99 says: I don't have a question
for Mr. Berners-Lee; I only want to tell him its an honor for me to be
able to hear what he has
to say (or rather read what he has to say).
Tim Berners-Lee: Thank you, that's very kind.
Louisk39 asks: In the great scheme of things, would you
rank the Web with other great innovations like the printing press? Is
this a turning point in human societal evolution?
Tim Berners-Lee: Whether it is a turning point in societal
evolution depends not only on the technology -- but also how we
use it! The web does give us lots more choices about how we organize
ourselves: we can make social structures which are independent of
geography, for example. However, we are still human beings. We have a
limited amount of capacity to deal with many things. We don't have more
time in the day or better concentration. We still have to choose who and
what we are involved in. The web gives us a wider choice. I really would
like to think that in the end we will find that we can make a more
civilized society under the new rules!
watsoj2 asks: Do you believe that attempting to control
content on the web is futile?
Tim Berners-Lee: Depends whether you are the reader or a
government. Let's get a few things straight. Some things are
illegal online or offline. They will continue to be. Child pornography
and fraud are examples. When it comes to "appropriate" or
"quality" behaviour, in my opinion, these things are very subjective.
So filtering by a user is good (essential!) and censorship by
governments is bad. Yes, in the long term I think it is futile, but some
governments have a lot of control.
caniaskaquestionplease asks: Why did you choose not
to make money off the web?
Tim Berners-Lee: I do get a salary from MIT, you know! :-)
But to answer your question underneath . . . If I had taken a
proprietary
control of the Web, then it would never have taken off. People only
committed their time to it because they knew it was open, shared:
that they could help decide what would happen to it next . . . and
I wouldn't be raking off 10%! The "Gopher" project -- very similar
to the WWW -- took a dive when the university which started it decided
to license the technology. A lot of people dropped it immediately
and would have done the same for the Web.
Timehost: Could you tell us a little about your work as
head of the W3C and of promoting the accessibility and freedom of the
Web?
Tim Berners-Lee: The World Wide Web Consortium is a forum
for all kinds of companies and organizations and individuals who are
concerned about the Web's future. We try to make sure it evolves without
disintegrating
into several webs. I have a few roles -- I and the full time staff
try to make sure that all the bits fit together. We facilitate the
process of arriving at consensus about new technology. (Check www.w3.org / for details)
ilovestinkyfeet asks: Do you think it's worthwhile
for colleges to offer courses in html, since things seem to be changing
so quickly?
Tim Berners-Lee: I think HTML 4.0 will be a standard which
you will be able to read in 200 years time. There is so much HTML. There
is also enough
investment in it that any new format will have ways of moving an HTML
website into that format. But -- do use standard HTML!! If you use
some proprietary version then you could be stuck with material which
makes no sense in 200 years time -- or 20. Use validator.w3.org to check your web
pages for being standard. That's a free service.
doctor_sputnik asks: Do you regard XML as a promising
competitor, or rather, a distraction to further development of HTML?
Tim Berners-Lee: XML is a new standard -- suite of standards
-- coming out of W3C. ( www.w3.org/XML ) XML doesn't replace HTML
directly -- it replaces the SGML family of languages of which HTML
was one. XHTML is equivalent to HTML but in the XML family. XML is
simpler than SGML. It makes creating new languages (like XHTML but
different) easier. In some ways this is great -- it means that we
might have interoperable spreadsheets and calendars and all kinds
of stuff -- but in some ways it is a worry as we may get 235 different
XML languages for calendars -- and so no interoperability. The plan
is for HTML itself to become modular now, and be adapted for use even
on TVs and cellphones. See www.w3.org/MarkUp
sveik99 asks: Do you see the Web of today as Democratic
or more Capitalist in nature?
Tim Berners-Lee: Democratic or Capitalist? Hmmm. when I
bought my ticket to the USA I was *assured* that the US could be both at
once ;-) Because it is a decentralized system, societies which are
(basically) decentralized can flourish using the Web. This includes the
market economy -- for example -- and democracy -- which is often
considered to be less centralized than other options.
abhishekkothari asks: Will the web help make e-commerce
as large as international trade is today?
Tim Berners-Lee: I think in the end the vast amount of
commerce
will be electronic because for one thing, it will rely on digital
signature for security. We have a way to go before we are there though,
both in technology and legislation.
findkevin asks: Do you think internet communication
was what Nostradamus saw as people talking over vast distances without
making a sound?
Tim Berners-Lee: I can't really say - and it is difficult
to ask him now. Pierre de Chardin, various people have been rumoured as
predicting the whole thing.
Stamm444 asks: When will your newest book be
published?
Tim Berners-Lee: I have only written one ("real," dead trees)
book. It is out now! See
www.amazon.com/exec/obi
dos/ASIN/0062515861/timberneleeshome/002-6174436-8
53084/ It is called "Weaving the Web". It tries to answer all
these questions.
Timehost: We know you have to run, but thank you very much
for joining us!
Tim Berners-Lee: Thank you for setting this up, and thank
you all for the
questions!

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