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Visions of the 21st Century:
Novelist Peter Benchley

Transcript from Nov. 4, 1999


Timehost: We are chatting today with Peter Benchley, who has written an article about the seas for TIME Magazine's Visions of the 21st Century-- www.pathfinder.com/time/reports/v21. In addition to that piece, he wrote a little-noticed book called "Jaws", and is also the host of the syndicated TV program, "Peter Benchley's Amazon." You can read about it at www.benchleysamazon.com. Mr. Benchley has entered the room and is ready to chat!

Timeguest: I'm sorry to be a few minutes late. I was discussing shipwreck legislation in the Caribbean.

estherqueenofthejungle asks: Did you do a lot of research for "Jaws" ?

Peter Benchley: It was almost all academic research because back in those days; almost nobody had any firsthand experience with great white sharks. "Blue Water, White Death" and the book written about it were the best sources available

koolkat327 asks: Did you go to school to study marine biology, and where?

Peter Benchley: No, I graduated from Harvard with a major in English in 1961.

estherqueenofthejungle asks: How did you become interested in the ocean?

Peter Benchley: I grew up during the summers in Nantucket, and spent all my time in or on the water.

mooncryer2000 asks: What inspired you to write "Jaws"?
dolphin_cutie asks: how long did it take you to write the "Jaws" novel

Peter Benchley: I had been thinking for almost ten years about telling the story because of a news clip I read about a man who caught a two ton white shark off Long Island. Once I got started, the book took about a year. But I was working part-time to support a family so I could only devote a couple of days a week to it.

shandy9 asks: Thank you for scaring me so badly I gave wide berth to mud puddles for a long time . . . do you feel that the great white shark is maligned?

Peter Benchley: The great white shark is, more importantly, endangered as the apex predator among fish. Nature makes very few of them, and when we interrupt the natural cycle with longlines or lobster pots we interfere with their population. Twenty-five years ago nobody knew much about white sharks. Today almost all the killings are by accident.

fhfan03755 asks: Sharks don't really attack people, do they?

Peter Benchley: Once in a while, sharks make a dedicated assault on a human being. Still, when a two-ton animal takes a taste of you, it doesn't do much good to apologize.

yousei_123 asks: Do you have any new projects in works?

Peter Benchley: The television series, "Amazon", is taking up most of my time, but I still try to save time to do articles for the National Geographic, films for aquariums on ocean conservation, and a daily radio spot on public radio called "The Ocean Report."

rattanchairprint asks: Do you write the screenplays for your show each week?

Peter Benchley: I wrote the pilot, and I helped edit the other scripts every week, but there are three full-time writers in addition to myself. It would be impossible for me to write 22 one-hour shows in a year.

Hejira66 asks: Did you feel that "Jaws" the movie represented your book well?<

Peter Benchley: I discovered in the process that books and movies are completely different media. I was very pleased with the movie in its incarnation, but I liked the book as a book.

Hejira66 asks: Who or what has the biggest influence on your writing?

Peter Benchley: I read very widely, both non-fiction and fiction, so I don't think there's a single writer who influences me. When I was growing up, I was very fond of Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Steinbeck; all the usual suspects.

dinasut asks: Where would you rate Hemingway in the list of great writers?

Peter Benchley: Reputations rise and fall almost as regularly as the tides. These days Hemingway is regarded almost as a cliche. But it took 100 years after Shakespeare's death for people to recognize his greatness, so we'll have to wait a lot longer to see whether Hemingway is really immortal.

tiiiimmmmmmyyyyy asks: In your TIME Magazine article, you say that we might overfish the sea in 25 years. What can we do to prevent this?

Peter Benchley: I think I said, or I meant to say, we are overfishing the sea already. The only way to prevent it is to establish enforceable international agreements on limiting catches and establishing marine preserves where fish have a chance to grow up without being killed.

Timehost: Do you have any ideas how to make treaty on fishing limits enforceable?

Peter Benchley: Like everything else, it would take enormous amounts of international funding for rangers, patrol boats, airplanes, etc. In the Galapagos Islands, for example, a handful of rangers have only a couple of boats and no airplanes to patrol thousands of square miles. So poachers have a huge advantage. That's pretty much true everywhere in the world.

mindrecreation asks: There seems to be a lot of speculation about the intelligence of dolphins, whales, etc. If we could talk to them, what would they tell us that would change things for the better?

Peter Benchley: I don't think anybody knows the answer to that question. It's the source of constant wonder and endless research. The fact that marine mammals seem to be able to make contact with autistic children, for example, is just one of the miracles waiting to be explored.

nicklangworthy asks: How much influence did you have on developing of the "Jaws" film or sequels?

Peter Benchley: I had no effect or interest in any of the sequels. I never even saw them. In the original, I wrote three drafts of the screenplay. I helped maintain the consistency of the shark images. And who could forget my epic performance as the reporter on the beach, on the Fourth of July.

MTBottle asks: Have you and Bob Ballard ever worked together on a project or do you plan to work with him ever?

Peter Benchley: I know Bob and respect and admire him enormously, but I've never had the chance to work with him.

dinasut asks: If you had to give a writer one piece of advice what would it be?

Peter Benchley: That's a very difficult question to answer without sounding flip or superficial. Writing is sweat and drudgery most of the time. And you have to love it in order to endure the solitude and the discipline.

koolkat327 asks: Ever have any real encounters with sharks?

Peter Benchley: Yes, I've had countless encounters with sharks. I have never, thank God, been bitten, but I've had any number of close calls. And these days, I do my best to gauge the risks before I even get in the water.

moose_241 asks: Have you ever gone on any adventures with the late Jacques Cousteau?

Peter Benchley: I never met Cousteau. He spent a lot of time and energy criticizing "Jaws" and I wrote him once or twice, but he never wrote back.

Timehost: Next question relates specifically to your TIME article .. technology has given us the tools to extinguish entire fish populations.

mindrecreation asks: I define "technology" as "a way of doing (something)". Every action which is ordered reduces to a mechanized way of doing and creates "industry" (becomes productive). Don't you think that blaming potentially horrible future possibilities on technology is a bit misplaced?

Peter Benchley: I don't believe in blaming inanimate objects for anything. But if we misuse the technology and destroy the very resources we intend to harvest, I think we deserve the blame.

rvanande asks: Do you think people have actually been more sensitive to nature after reading some of your books, or do they just see these as action stories?

Peter Benchley: I certainly hope they become more sensitive. As far back as "Jaws", which was my first novel, the voice of Hooper the scientist was my voice urging the populace not to embark on some mad vendetta against an animal that was just doing what nature programmed it to do. If there's an underlying them in the books I've written about marine creatures, it's that man has a responsibility to co-exist with his environment, not to try to dominate it.

z_z_nip asks: Did you ever realize that "Jaws" would become such a big hit?

Peter Benchley: No, I knew that "Jaws" couldn't possibly be successful. It was a first novel, and nobody reads first novels. It was a first novel about a fish, so who cares?

Peter Benchley: And I knew they couldn't make a movie because nobody could catch and train a great white shark and the technology of the time wasn't up to creating a credible animal. So much for what I knew.

EL_SKUDO asks: Is there a United Nations sea protection statement?

Peter Benchley: There's a law of the sea treaty. But at the moment, the most important work is being done in specific forums such as the International Convention Regarding Tuna and Endangered Species.

Timehost: The Coast Guard is involved in protecting fishing grounds off Alaska. Do you expect to see fishing wars -- with shots fired -- in the next century?

Peter Benchley: I wouldn't be surprised. It has happened already, and as the resources dwindle, and men's livelihoods are put at risks, they are likely to become desperate.

dokken_23 asks: What kind of TV show do you do?

Peter Benchley: One of the things that attracted me to "Amazon", which is a series currently in syndication, was the chance to tell two classic stories: a survival story, and a "land of the lost" story involving descendants of shipwrecked sailors from the 17th century. I am a bulldog about authenticity, both historical and natural, and one of the terrific things we discovered in our research was that back in the 1600's people were about to use repeating crossbows when firearms came in and made them obsolete. It's these kinds of details that fascinate me and make the show interesting. I always regretted that "The Deep" wasn't recognized for its technical achievement. Nobody before or since has done underwater photography that comes close to "The Deep" in terms of authenticity.

MTBottle asks: Are you writing any books currently?

Peter Benchley: No, at the moment, I'm spending all my time on the TV series "Amazon", environmental films, radio spots and work for the National Geographic.

jugador_22 asks: What do you do in your spare time? Fishing? (just kidding)

Peter Benchley: I dive as much as I can. I'm specifically interested in underwater archeology. I read voraciously. And I study history, on-site wherever possible.

Stamm444 asks: Will the Internet offer new opportunities for novelists? For example, research is easier, you can get feedback on some plot ideas, etc.

Peter Benchley: I'm a babe in the woods when it comes to the Internet. I'm just beginning to appreciate the value of e-mail, and so I wouldn't presume to predict the next step. The evening news tonight talked about developments in computer technology so breathtaking that even computer experts can't fathom how important they're going to be. So far be it from me to make any grandiose predictions that will only underline my ignorance.

dolphin_cutie asks: What do you think the future holds for the oceans and the rain forest?

Peter Benchley: I guess I'm a hopeful optimist, because to be a pessimist is to be suicidal. If man doesn't learn to treat the oceans and the rain forest with respect, man will become extinct. I don't know about you, but I don't feel like being extinct.

david_10606 asks: Is oceanography a good career now?

Peter Benchley: Oceanography is a terrific career because gradually we seem to be coming around to realize that we had better become as acquainted with the seventy percent of our planet that is covered by water as we are with the dark side of the moon. If we can redirect our resources towards the oceans and away from the stars for a couple of years, I think the future holds enormous promise.

Timehost: That seems like a nice note to end on. Thanks you very much, Mr. Benchley, for joining us in the TIME Auditorium and chatting with our intrepid audience.

Peter Benchley: Thank you.



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