Warning: The following report may contain sexually explicit language.
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Excerpts from audio tapes that Linda Tripp made of conversations with
Monica Lewinsky, released Friday as part of evidence referred to the House
Judiciary Committee by Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr:
The tapes were made between Oct. 3 and Dec. 22, 1997; the precise
date of each conversation was not apparent in the transcripts.
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(Tripp and Lewinsky, on the phone, discuss job offer from U.S.
Ambassador to the United Nations Bill Richardson)
LEWINSKY: ... We were sitting right near the entrance and so he
kind of came in and so I said "Ambassador Richardson, Monica Lewinsky." He
said, "Oh, hi. How are you?" And, I introduced him to my mom and to Peter
and then he said something or another and said "Well, we're just waiting
for you. The ball's in your court."
TRIPP: Unreal.
LEWINSKY: "I want to hire you."
TRIPP: I don't believe this. Where were you at dinner?
LEWINSKY: We went to 21.
TRIPP: Yeah? Who was he there with?
LEWINSKY: His wife.
TRIPP: Is that not the most bizarre thing?
LEWINSKY: It was so weird. It was really weird. Like really weird.
TRIPP: ... Do you - when you're up there, though, do you feel like you're
gonna enjoy living there?
LEWINSKY: ... I just kind of feel like - I feel really cheated, you
know. ... And I said I feel like I'm moving to New York and - because I
have to, but it's not what I would be doing by choice. ...
LEWINSKY: ... She (Lewinsky's mother) said, ... "Monica, if you
went back there, let alone that all these people are nasty and they're
venomous. She goes, "You would just - be just as miserable as you are now.'
You know, she was like, "He would never see you enough. It would never be
enough.' ...
... and there is some truth to that because ... I was upset, when I
worked there about him. ...
... I was constantly, constantly thinking he forgot who I was. ...
TRIPP: Well, how could he have forgotten who you were when you were
seeing him?
LEWINSKY: ... I was crazy, Linda. I mean, it seems to me that it
was like if I didn't see him, then he forgot who I was. ...
... And if he didn't call, he forgot who I was.
... I don't know if you know this or not or ever realized it, but -
you know, I got over (REDACTED) with the creep. ...
... Right before this had happened, right before this started with
the creep, I had gone to Portland in the end of October. ... And I had not
seen Andy since July, and I had gone there pretty much to see my friends
and to see him. ...
... and then we did end up getting together, but it wasn't that
great. And then - I was there about a week. And so then I went to see him
again and we were supposed to fool around, and he like pulled all this
(REDACTED) on me. He didn't want to do this anymore, he couldn't do it, he
couldn't do it. And I ... was like hysterically crying.
TRIPP: Mm-hmm.
LEWINSKY: So I was - hated his guts, you know? Came back from
Portland and ... got my hair done, and ... like a week and half later was
when this whole thing started.
TRIPP: A week and a half later is when what started?
LEWINSKY: The stuff with the creep. ...
LEWINSKY: It was like shifting my focus, and so it was, it was so, like
important, for me to get over Andy. I mean, it was just funny, he was the
vehicle for it, you know?
TRIPP: Mm-hmm.
LEWINSKY: But - so- that contributed a little, I think, to - to my-
TRIPP: Yeah.
LEWINSKY: - whatever with him, you know. And I really - I really
felt like, oh, there's a different girl every day and he was gonna forget.
You know, I mean, when this first happened, I mean, I said to my mom, I
said, "Well, I think he just fooled around with me because his girlfriend
was probably furloughed."
TRIPP: You idiot.
LEWINSKY: I'm not kidding you. That's what I thought.
TRIPP: Oh, my God. Monica -
LEWINSKY: So, I don't know. It's just- you know, and she's right.
She's right. It would be - I mean, I would get to see him more. I think I'd
have more time with him.
TRIPP: I read that he spent the night at, um- or was it on the news
today - at Steven Spielberg's partner's house? Castlebaum or Castleman or
something.
LEWINSKY: Oh, really?
TRIPP: In L.A.
LEWINSKY: Huh.
TRIPP: I don't know. I don't know who that is. I don't know
anything about him. One of the Dreamworks people.
LEWINSKY: Yeah. Well, you know what's funny is this is - I don't
know which came - well I'm sure the plans for him to stay there came
before, but, you know, about a week ago, there was this thing in The New
York Post saying that, um, they had offered him to be a partner in
Dreamworks when he becomes ex-president and that they had already staked
out this land and had - have already bought him a house out there.
TRIPP: You're kidding.
LEWINSKY: No. Isn't that funny? So, I mean, I don't know. I think
what makes more sense is someone got wind that he was gonna stay there,
because I'm sure those plans were made before -
TRIPP: Right.
LEWINSKY: You know -
TRIPP: There's always leaks.
...LEWINSKY: I got - oh - oh - and I bought a beautiful, beautiful,
rad red very thin silk sweater top.
TRIPP: Ooh.
LEWINSKY: That - it's for my next visit - if I ever have one again.
TRIPP: You in red. Yes.
LEWINSKY: Which I think I will. I think eventually I'll have to, right?
TRIPP: Yeah.
LEWINSKY: I have to give him his Christmas present.
TRIPP: Yeah.
LEWINSKY: It probably won't be for forever, but -
TRIPP: Just because you wear a red sweater does not mean you have
to wear red lipstick.
LEWINSKY: I understand that.
TRIPP: Okay. I'm just trying to-
LEWINSKY: I wouldn't ever wear red lipstick to see him.
TRIPP: Good.
...TRIPP: Well, you may have reason to call because you may end up
-um- hearing something from Vernon.
LEWINSKY: And so what? So what do I need to say? Well, just I took
something, or what?
TRIPP: Well, no. You're gonna discuss it with him, aren't you?
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