World: We Are Socialist'

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On disarming the whites: There must be disarmament of everybody, not only the whites. There are many guns around, and we want to remove them. We want this to be achieved in as short a period as possible. The people now have the power, so I don't see any reason why they should have these individual firearms. If we want them to be armed, we will arm them properly.

On South Africa: What the blacks in South Africa decide to do is entirely their own affair. If they decide to wage an armed struggle, we wish them well. It's not our business either to send our men there with arms to fight on the side of the Liberators, or to move directly in some other form to support that armed struggle. We can denounce apartheid in the forums of the United Nations and the nonaligned movement, but we wouldn't regard it as our direct responsibility to overthrow the South African government. South Africa is a different proposition from Rhodesia, where a group of settlers revolted against their queen and then also revolted against the general will of the people. South Africa consolidated itself on the basis of an independence it was granted [by Britain] in 1910. What is required now is not to question the right of independence of South Africa, but the system that is responsible for the oppression going on down there. South Africa is not a colonial problem like ours.